Seaside programmers in Singapore?

I’ve been fiddling around with Seaside for a while now and I was wondering if there is anyone in Singapore (besides myself) doing it. Would be interesting to hear from someone, anyone, either a beginner like myself or a veteran Smalltalker perhaps? It would be nice to talk shop to someone nearer at home. I think there is probably too little current interest to start up Seaside community in Singapore but if there is anyone interested in exploring or learning this together do drop me a note. Would love to hear from you.

11 thoughts on “Seaside programmers in Singapore?

  1. Hi,

    Seaside is a web application framework written in Smalltalk. It’s not widely used but there are some public web apps that are using it today.

    I think IBM uses it quite a bit for some financial applications as well, I have a friend who used to work in Smalltalk in IBM as well.

    The answer to your question is Seaside as a web application framework :)

    Thks for your listing.

  2. I did drop by the Seaside website some time ago, when I was comparing CMS systems. For some reason, people were comparing it with Drupal and the likes.

    So have you creating anything interesting with Seaside yet? :)

  3. The comparison is wrong. Drupal is a CMS while Seaside is a web application framework. The correct comparison would be to things like Rails or Struts. There is a CMS created in Seaside called Pier though.

    I’m still exploring Seaside but I believe its flexibility and potential is worth taking a serious look at.

  4. Yup.

    Right now, I know of 2 others due to some project that we did using smalltalk seaside.

    But did a few hacks with the ODBC package for MSSQL, that make me feel a bit “sick” of the implementation.

    But seaside .. its cool, except for the ugly URL of s and k

  5. I came across Seaside as well, looks like very interesting stuff. How’s the performance and scalability like? Is it true that because it saves the web states the memory and server requirements will increase?

    I do think it’s an interesting framework, but I would want a bigger developer ecosystem around it, before I actually dive into it. Or just show me a really cool web app written on it! ;-)

  6. Seaside is the web framework to look out for. The community is small now but it is exploding. I think a bigger developer ecosystem will be coming soon as well as more commercial support. GemStone just announced a port to their server yesterday, which will be free.

    For a really cool app, try DabbleDb. DabbleDb is created by Avi Bryant, the same person who wrote Seaside and is still actively involved in the development albeit joined by many others.

    I can give a short demo on Seaside anytime if there’s enough interest and if we can get Ivan to offer the facilities again :)

  7. There’s a stiffer learning curve than most and for people who are weaned on Java and C and C++, it’s not an easy transition. It’s unfortunate but I think Singaporean programmers (and I mean by residency, not by birth), either from education or upbringing, has a tendency to be pragmatic and therefore goes for the most commercially viable tool.

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